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  JW/HLC visit to our hospital

  by ScoobySnax in

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  yesterday jehovahs witnesses and the hospital liason committee visited our hospital to donate a blood cell saver machine which had been funded by the local congregations in our county of kent in england.

  a buffet lunch was provided, along with 4 talks to a large audience of surgical and medical consultants, anaetheologists, paedatricians, and obstetraticians (sp!

  ) about the future of blood and the transfusion of such products.

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  Lee Elder

  Hello ScoobySnax:

  Thank you for your report. While the WTS donation of a cell saver unit is admirable it is the moral equivalent of a cigarette company donating chemotherapy drugs to a cancer center. The WTS irrational policy on the use of blood and blood products is responsible for thousands of needless deaths. The fact that JW children are sacrificed to support such a policy is reprehensible and the WTS policy of sanctioning any JW who conscientiously disagrees with its irrational policy by requiring their JW family members to shun them is morally repugnant.

  Those who are most familiar with the finer points of this issue will not be impressed by the actions of the WTS in this instance. Their hands are full of innocent blood and it will take a lot more than donating a "Cell Saver" to atone for their wrong doing.

  Regards,

  Lee Elder - AJWRB
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  Back in the saddle again?

  by Lee Elder in

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  a family friend is getting married and has asked me to perform the wedding.

  my wife directed me to the solution: http://www.spiritualhumanism.org/.

  so i'm clergy again!

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  A family friend is getting married and has asked me to perform the wedding. My wife directed me to the solution: http://www.spiritualhumanism.org/

  So I'm clergy again! Who would have thunk it ;-)

  You too can be a man (or woman) of the cloth!

  Check it out.

  Lee
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  Can't help but scratch my head...

  by Lee Elder in

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  ...when i read some of the posts in this forum these days.

  the founding fathers had it right when.

  they setup an electoral college and opted for a republic.

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  ...when I read some of the posts in this forum these days. The founding fathers had it right when
  they setup an electoral college and opted for a republic. As the walls of the Tower crumble expect
  to see more (not less) lunacy from those fleeing. Ray Franz is absolutely correct when expressing
  his concern that former Jehovah's Witnesses not exchange one set of extreme views for another -
  that is what many do. Religion should bring out the best in people but sadly brings out the worst
  all too often.

  Lee
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  Former Elders Please Check IN

  by jst2laws in

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  2. friends

  i noticed quite a few former elders commenting on the thread:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37801&site=3&page=1

  i thought it was amusing that about 20 percent of the bethelites in my department at bethel have left the organization.

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  Count me in for 10 years of stupidity.
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  Those in a position to call Brooklyn

  by hillary_step in

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  the allegations of sexual abuse against at least one child and subsequent attempts to cover over the crime made against theodore jarcacz are extremely serious.

  they have of course, yet to be proved one way or the other and theo jaracz has the right of proper representation both outside and within the walls of the wt, and should be allowed to defend himself against these accusations.

  many persons who have in the past been accused of 'gross sins' become victim of an investigation by elders.

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  I have heard enough information from those in a position to know to feel comfortable treating the accusation seriously. Following WTS procedures, the body of elders in TJ congregation have a responsibility to appoint two elders and conduct an investigtion of this allegation.

  Lee
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  AJWRB supports litigation against the WTS

  by Lee Elder in

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  to learn more about this development visit:.

  http://www.ajwrb.org/litigation.shtml.

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  Lee Elder

  To learn more about this development visit:

  http://www.ajwrb.org/litigation.shtml

  Lee
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  AJWRB support litigation against the Watchtower

  by Lee Elder in

  1. watchtower
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  to learn more about this development visit:.

  http://www.ajwrb.org/litigation.shtml.

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  To learn more about this development visit:

  http://www.ajwrb.org/litigation.shtml

  Lee
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  I Gave Blood!

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i went the other day to give a pint of my own blood for my upcoming surgery............boy oh boy, did i start to feel guilty at first, but then everyone told me what a smart idea it was: the doctors, nurses, family, ex-witness friends, friends at work........it was a piece of cake, so i go again next week to give more.. what is the gbs reasoning on refusing this procedure?

  i'm not taking anyone else's blood in to my body; my blood doesn't have to be "poured out" because i'm not frigging dead!!!!.

  how many lives could have been saved if they had even said "okay, you can store your own blood.

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  Good to see you exercise your right to chose. Don't stop donating - JWs put
  an incredible strain on the blood supply with their pharasaical policies.

  Lee
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  20 year old JW dead in USA - AJWRB responds

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on thursday september 5th, we learned that a 20 year old jehovahs witness (jw) named collins stephens had died in an intensive care unit in little rock, arkansas.

  for us, this tragedy is heightened by the knowledge that something as simple as a transfusion of red cells might well have saved collins life by allowing physicians to repair his damaged heart and aorta.. we know that collin was in an accident and that he survived for over ten days in a drug induced coma.

  we know that physicians worked feverishly to keep him alive and build up his blood count.

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  Hi Scully,

  That is a great idea! Why don't you try to develop it.

  Thanks,

  Lee
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  20 year old JW dead in USA - AJWRB responds

  by Lee Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  on thursday september 5th, we learned that a 20 year old jehovahs witness (jw) named collins stephens had died in an intensive care unit in little rock, arkansas.

  for us, this tragedy is heightened by the knowledge that something as simple as a transfusion of red cells might well have saved collins life by allowing physicians to repair his damaged heart and aorta.. we know that collin was in an accident and that he survived for over ten days in a drug induced coma.

  we know that physicians worked feverishly to keep him alive and build up his blood count.

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  Lee Elder

  Christian Observer wrote:

  <The thought occurred to me that if Jehovah's Witnesses were placing literature there, maybe those concerned about this issue could place flyers outlining the current status of the blood policy and drawing attention to the AJWRB site, in hospital waiting rooms/doctors' and dental surgeries and on staff/student notice boards in hospitals and medical schools with the title: Do Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY abstain from blood?

  Just a thought........>> heads off to draw up a draft...........>>may I use the colourful pie chart on the AJWRB site *pretty please* - complete with acknowledgement of the source?>

  Yes you may - please send final copy to AJWRB before distributing.

  Thanks,

  Lee